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>> they were amazing. they melt in your mouth. >> steve: not in your hand? >> yes. >> gretchen: keep it here for the after the show show. have a great thursday, everybody. >> steve: see you tomorrow, everybody bill: 9:00 in cleveland, ohio. fox news alert. for the first time we have seen him live. the man accused of running a hell house. >> ariel castro charged with kidnapping and rape on the 1st, 2nd, 3r 3rd and
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kidnapping on the-th. bill: the judge setting bond at $2 million on each rape charge. michelle knight is still recovering at a hospital and now we learn more and more about their decade-long ordeal and tales of survival. we start in cleveland. i'm bill hemmer. a big welcome to you. >> it's so hard to wrap your mind around this. details are coming out that are so disturbing as we learn more about the case against castro. but for now, a joy to us homecoming.
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-- a joyous homecomin neighbors chanting the name of gina dejesus as she aroughs home. the last time she was home she was a 14-year-old middle schooler and her family never gave up hope. >> i know she needed me and i never gave up searching for her. >> the man that helped amanda, that the courage that she had in her to do these three young women are at home. don't ignore a plea for help. because if you was to come to me and say i need help. i'm here, i'm going to help you. please do it. bill: you wonder how many times
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they dreamt of these homes and seeing them again. another scene of celebration and joy. amanda berry arriving at her sister's house with her 6-year-old daughter. it was amanda berry who made the bid for freedom. her sister beth thanking the community for their support. >> we are so happy to have amanda and her daughter home. i want to thank the media for their support. our family will request privacy so my sister and my niece and i will have time to recover. please respect our privacy until we are ready to make our statement, ban thank you. bill: it was thought amanda would make a statement in the end. that was decided against. castro made his first appearance in court moment ago. garrett, what happened?
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>> reporter: it was a brief hearing. ariel castro was in the courtroom with his head down. seepingly not making eye contact with anyone -- seemingly not making eye contact with anyone there. fit was hard to hear the proceedings as the cameras were clicking throughout. the prosecutor using strong words to describe the charges. deliberate. depraved. the three women withstood repeated beatings. he was taking a personal shot at castro saying now he's the captive. bill: what about the the two brothers, they were there, why? >> reporter: they were facing charges from 12 years ago. onil castro, those charges were dismissed. pedro castro was facing charges of an open alcoholic container.
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he was given credit for time served and was charged $100. investigators say they have no reason to believe they were involved in the other incidences. the kidnapping of the three women. they say they are continuing to collect evidence and it's an ongoing investigation. bill: do you know if he even uttered a word? >> reporter: we could not hear him utter a word. he did sidestep with the public defend and they whispered back and forth a few times. you could tell he hadn't shaved in several days. as he left the courtroom, pulled his jumpsuit up over his face and tried to hide as he left. >> one of the victims, michelle knight is still waiting to be reunited with family, many of
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whom live in florida. several of her loved ones are speaking out. they are overcome with relief and hoping she is getting all the care and support she needs. >> reporter: you haven't seen michelle? >> no. >> mentally she isn't taking everything well. we just want to know she has got support. >> knight's disappearance was 10 years ago. it was much lower profile than amanda berry or gina dejesus. her mother says police didn't take the case seriously because they believed she was a runaway. bill: remember when amanda berry said i'm the one who has been missing for 10 years. radio traffic captured the incident when officers arrived on scene and realized this could be real.
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bill: they are free from 10 years of captivity. >> we have the cleveland police department releasing this. dash cam videos showing an officer pilling ariel castro
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over at a gas stationer to traffic violations. >> your driver's license. >> what's wrong? >> you have to display left or right. not upside down or sideways. >> the officer could have arrested castro but he let him off with two tickets after he explained he was what school bus driver. bill: the family of that missing teenager now hoping this case could be connected to perhaps the disappearance of ashley summer to 2007. is that the case or not. police took a question on that last night. we'll get the details of that in a moment. >> another story we are talking about. an arizona jury is returning to
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court today to decide if jodi arias deserves to die for killing her one-time boyfriend. the same jury that found her guilty of first degree murder yesterday. >> state of arizona versus jodi arias count one. we the jury in the above entitled action find the defendant as to count one first degree murder guilty. >> look at her reaction. jodi arias not showing much emotion. her lip maybe quivered a little bit. she seemed maybe to fight back to tears. we are hearing jodi arias after the verdict as well. >> reporter: that's right. she fave an extra -- she gave an extraordinary interview after the verdict came down. but she did not convince the jury that she stabbed her
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boyfriend 27 times, shot him in the head and slit his throat from ear to ear out of self-defense and she didn't convince the public either. the crowd erupted in joy. an hour later she sat down with a reporter from the fox station here in phoenix. he asked her if she had a sense of how the public felt about her. >> i can sense there is great division on both sides. but i believe the majority is against me. >> what are your thoughts on that? >> a psychologist once explained to me that society has this need to persecute people, to get gratification from it. there might be something going on there. >> reporter: she admitted perhaps all the lying she did in this case didn't help either and that jailhouse interview she gave way back when.
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that's when she said no jury would ever convict her. >> what is the next phase of this trial. >> reporter: we start the aggravation phase. all the parties will come back and argue whether it was an aggravating circumstance, in this case, cruelty. the alexander family reacted. you can see the hugs and tears of joy. they support the death penalty. if the aggravation phase comes back and the jury says yes, this was extreme cruelty, then they move on to the sentencing phase and that could be a mini trial of a week or two weeks where witnesses are put on the stand and they will argue whether jodi arias should live or die. 25 years to life, mandatory life or the death penalty. >> dan springer reporting live for us. bill: why she says she would
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prefer the death penalty over life in prison. gretta is here today. her take on the verdict and the interview and the why. that's coming up. 12 minutes past. more breaking news from the hill. congress is holding its first hearing on the boston bombings. the police commissioner, we'll have the latest on that and how it would affect homeland security in your town across the country. >> a bombshell hearing on been benghazi raising questions about the government's response. in moment we'll hear from lawmakers who questioned the witnesses about the obama administration's initial blaming the attack on a video. >> what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped. and i was embarrassed. >> did she talk to you before
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bill: where to now on benghazi? after a day of riveting testimony on the hill. here is an exchange between gregory hicks and trey gowdy. he was the last to speak with ambassador steve's the moaning he was killed. >> susan rice blamed his attack on a video, she did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped and i was embarrassed. >> did she talk to you before she went on the five sunday talk shows? >> no, sir. >> you were the highest ranking
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official in libya at the time, correct? >> yes, sir. >> and she did not bother to have a conversation with you before she went on national television. >> no, sir. bill: that was just part of it. congressman tray guidey i -- coy gowdy is with me now. i think what a lot of viewers want to know is where this goes next. what's the answer to that? >> we need more hearings. we need more eye wh -- need mors accounts. people actually on the ground and have first-hand accounts. that's what we need to hear from. we need evidence. bill: who next comes before your committee? >> it depend on which one you
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are most interested in. jason chaffetz pursued questions on not to pursue assets. i pursued susan rice. i would love to have susan rice under oath to ask if she was just negligent or intentionally wrong. we have the military come point, the security come point. the sue and rice, beth jones con follow end. there are 25 witnesses that we know of that i would like to examine and that doesn't include whistleblowers that may be on the precipice of whether to come forward like the three that came forward yesterday. bill: are you suggesting you are on the verge of getting more to go public? >> i can't imagine anybody with information and knowledge that saw the families yesterday that would not be moved from a moral standpoint to come forward to help. bill: do you have one or two or more or none. >> more than two, how's that?
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bill: the time line still seems to be an issue. what happened on the evening of september 11 and what transpired into the morning of september 12. this is a moment from the hearing yesterday. middle of the night tripoli time. listen. >> about 3:00 a.m. i received a call from the prime minister of libya. it's the saddest phone call i have ever had in my life. he told me that ambassador stevens had passed away. i immediately telephoned washington at the news. bill: 3:00 a.m. on the morning of september 12, this last fall would have been 9:00 p.m. in washington. what happened at the state department when that phone call was made? >> the fact that i can't answer your question after nine months
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is the best evidence we need more hearings. i remember a commercial from a couple years ago about a 3:00 in the morning phone call. who did you want to take that. most of the people involved in the government right now. one is the president, one is the secretary of state. who did something about it.e who got out of bed? it wasn't even 3:00 a.m. our time. i can't tell you where the president was and it's been 9 months. i can't tell you the secretary of state ... i know she called at 2:00 a.m. she called gregg hicks. i don't think she has been asked about it. bill: did he talk to secretary clinton after 2:00 a.m.? >> no. beth jones and cheryl mills yes, hillary clinton no. bill: we have a couple more aged
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to get to. including democratic reaction to what we watched yesterday. that's forthcoming on america's newsroom. heather: we are going to take a live look at capitol hill where where -- where hearings on the boston bombings are getting underway.
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bill: new trouble for carnival cruise lines after two passengers small overboard on the coast of australia. a search underway for the missing couple. surveillance video shows the couple falling off a deck 65 miles offshore. they are not sure if the couple jumped or if that was an
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accident. heather: the first hearings on the boston bombings is underway on capitol hill. lawmakers looking into answers for potential intelligence failures that could have let the two suspects slip through the cracks. among those testifying boston police commissioner edward davis. catherine what is the focus of today's hearing? >> reporter: at the hearing they are investigating whether stove piping or the lack of sharing of information, what was associated with the 9/11 attacks had a role in the leadup to the boston marathon bombings. in 2011 the fbi and the cia were contacted about it russians indicating they believe tamerlan tsarnaev was a follower of islam. let a year later in 2012. a year before the boston
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marathon bombings. tamerlan tsarnaev went to rushu for six months. when he returned nothing was triggered for followup. >> it so important that information be shared and the dots be connected. i'm concerned about the travel flags going up and why was that information shared. maybe he could have been looked at when he came back into the united states. >> reporter: it's not at all clear the fbi agent on the task force had any knowledge that tamerlan tsarnaev had left and returned to the united states and gone to the country that had warned he would join an overseas terrorist organization or no evidence that the information was shared with the boston
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police department, the cops in his own neighborhood. heather: a month after he returns he starts posting radical jihadist videos on youtube. what are we learn being this relationship between tamerlan and the canadian boxer turned jihadist? >> reporter: there was a relationship between tamerlan tsarnaev and the canadian boxer. on tamerlan tsarnaev's youtube page he posted a video of plotnikov who was killed in 2012. they say the relationship between these two men believer there what is a high probability they met in dagestan in 2012 when tamerlan tsarnaev left the boston area for six months.
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>> whether tsarnaev became cad rallized in pakistan or was radicalized before he left the united states on that trip we want to determine. but if there are connections between the two, those could be telling. >> reporter: investigators are considering whether there was a relationship between these two men that not only went to cad -- went to radicalization and training, but one of the outstanding questions is where he allegedly learned these bomb making skills. heather: catherine herridge reporting live for us. bill: they followed 200 people on their list of people to keep an eye on. a turn in a case that's been riveting for millions. jodi arias facing a possible death penalty. she sits down for an interview
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minutes after her conviction. why she prefers death over life in jail. what she said and gretta reacts to this. >> reporter: you got a lot of questions from the jury. do you believer they didn't believe your story? what are your thoughts on that? >> i can understand that, i think. [ man ] on december 17, 1903,
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arias gives an interview to fox phoenix minutes after her conviction. here is what she had to say in an interview that stunned everyone. >> reporter: a couple minutes ago you heard the verdict from the jury. what are your thoughts? >> i think i went blank. just -- i don't know. i just feel overwhelmed. i think i need to take it a day at a time. >> reporter: was it unexpected? this verdict? >> it was unexpected for me, yes, because there was no premeditation on my part. i can see how things look that way. i didn't expect premeditation. i can see felony murder because of the way the law was word. but i was fairly confident i wouldn't get premeditation because there wasn't
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premeditation. >> reporter: the jurors didn't believe your story. what are your thoughts on that? >> i can understand that because of the lies i told in the beginning to couch this and cover up that and hide things i didn't want to be known. i don't know that i have a direct message for the jury. i know i prayed constantly for every single one of them. that's the jury that was brought to me. that's the jury i was meant to have. >> reporter: you prayed for the jury. >> i prayed prior to trial that the right jurors would be on my jury. i have to believe that those were the right jurors. >> reporter: are you focusing on the court or are you focusing on what could be the outcome for you? >> the outcome for me would be natural life. i would rather die sooner than later. longevity runs in my family.
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i don't want to spend the rest of my natural life in one place. i'm pretty healthy and i don't smoke. i would probably live a long time. i said years ago that i would rather get death than life and that's still true today. i believe death is the ultimate freedom. if i would rather have my freedom as soon as i can get. >> reporter: you prefer getting the death penalty to being in prison for life. >> yes. >> reporter: the alexander family, the two sisters and younger brother, if you could say something to them, what would you like to say to them? >> i hope that now that a verdict has been rendered they are able to find a sense of peace. i don't think they will ever find the peace that they would like. but maybe they will be able to have greater peace now. or some semblance of it. and be able to move on with their life and remember their
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brother the way they want to. just the way everything happened, i think that if i had been honest from the beginning i would be in a different place. so would everyone else. and because of what i have done, a lot of people will hurt for a long time. bill: minutes after the conviction. troy hayden was the reporter from fox phoenix. we reached out to him. we hope to talk to him this morning. with me is the host of "on the record" with gretta van susteren. i know you ran this interview on your program. here is what i take away from this. either her attorney had absolutely no control over the client jodi arias or they are clever by a half. because all of this is going to
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the possiblability she is just crazy in the first place and that may indeed save her life in the end and the death penalty. i don't know where this jury goes from here. but they will begin that phase starting today. how in the world is it possible that someone walks out of court into another room and gives an interview like that? >> reporter: it's got to be a runaway client other lawyers don't like them. the lawyer who gave the closing argument said nine out of ten days he doesn't like her. the nation isn't going to be voting on her death penalty. it will be this jury. the jury is told not to listen to news accounts. the jury hopefully won't hear this. if the that can happen to a lawyer is to have a client freelance like this. bill: when you talk about the attorney. is that a man or woman? the image we have here is of a
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woman. we see half of her face here in the camera picture. she is the one who puts more arm on her and taps her back after the verdict is read. >> reporter: the whole thing is it's an emotional point. that's why she puts her arm on her. she feels bad. but the worst is the fact that this client is talking now -- if i had the chance to interview her as a journalist i would seize the moment and do it immediately. i would hop on a plane and goin. but the thing from a pure legal perspective. i have done death penalty cases, this couldn't be a more dangerous thing to do if you are trying to save her life. she may have driven them nuts. but that's part of the job, you have to deal with it. i'm surprised the lawyers weren't from the cellblock with her all night long after receiving a verdict of guilty. most lawyers would have been
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there all night long in a cellblock preparing her for the next phase of the case. bill: how does a relationship reach that point? does she drive them so crazy month after month after month, they think what in the world can we do? >> if a client can go into someone's house and stab someone 27 times and fire a bullet into a person, chances are the person is not the easiest person to get along with. the lawyers had a challenge to get along with. she hasn't denied she did this. at least not the third time. bill: of the people on death row in america today, the women account for fewer than 2%. does she qualify for the death penalty here based on what you have heard from the case. >> reporter: the jury makes the decision. but everyone says they will never execute a woman. well the fact that they do put some women on death row and they have execute sod women.
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if the defense lawyer is bang on that the defense lawyer is in deeper trouble than i thought. they do it women on death row and execute women. the odds are against it. but you don't talk about odds in the courtroom, you talk about evidence. they may have a different view of her because she is on the witness stand. that may happen. i have no idea what the jury gigs to do. i can only tell you it's extremely high risk situation. she is not likeable. the crime is horrible. this is not a good position for this woman to be in now. the lawyer thinks what disturbs me. maybe they couldn't control her and that does happen that you have a lawyer that's runaway. bill: it's good to have you on. gretta van susteren. check her out later tonight prime time. one female attorney, one male attorney on that case in
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phoenix, arizona. heather: an amazing interview. let's take a look at the markets for you as we head for a quick break. investors reacting to brand-new unemployment claims that fell by 4,000. the decline may be a sign more hiring is takes place. but companies need to step up hiring to drive the unemployment rate down. the dow hit another record yesterday. bill: three women held hostage for more than a decade. we have seen the suspect in court today. but were there more captors inside that house in cleveland? the family of the missing girl holding out hope. a miracle they call it. a miracle for themselves. >> help me, i'm amanda berry.
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heather: w we are getting our first look at the man who helped three girls captive for 10 years. now the family of a fourth missing cleveland teenager, they are hoping for a miracle as well. ashley summers, she disappeared in july of 2007. she was 14 years old at the time. she vanished from the same neighborhood as the other three women. the former chief investigator in new york city and the director of investigators came out yesterday and said that they have no evidence that summers is a fourth victim. but there may be a lot that we still do not know. in your opinion, what do you think the chances are she is yet another victim of this ariel castro. >> we see the commonality. she is from the same
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neighborhood. she is in that age group and fits that soft target profile. there is still hope. we had three miracles. there is perhaps a chance for another one. we have things that don't match up which are she had a family problem with her great uncle. but the family received a phone call a month later and they later came up with information that may lead toward this suspect. heather: i wasn't aware of this nil was doing research today. briefly after her disappearance the family received this phone call, they believed it to be her voice. she said, i'm fine, hung up. the sister went to authorities. they went to the phone records. are there any numbers you don't recognize. one of the numbers came up with the name castro. >> interesting piece of evidence. law enforcement has the ability to retriever those records. heather: in terms of where thee
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disappeared it happened within a mile and a half of where berry and dejesus was last seen and it's 3 1/2 miles from castro's home. >> we can't disregard the close proximity. so the chances are law enforcement is going to look deeply into this. they will focus their investigation on the victim, the suspect, the home, other crime scenes and they will look for other victims as well. heather: there are a lot of missing cases going on right now in the cleveland area stan we have a map -- and we have a map. the northeast ohio missing persons database includes 96 names missing people as of mid-day tuesday. three of those have been reported missing more than 10 years. but new reports come out daily. >> we see a lot of people go mission and we locate a lot of
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people. this case is rare. the mere fact that they are were abducted and are alive 10 years, 12 years later is amazing. heather: what about the fact that they were right there in the neighborhood. they were still there and no one found them? >> law enforcement will learn a lot from this case. we have to take a closer look at each and every instance in which we have contact with the public. looking for things out of the ordinary to identify hotpots where people have been abducted. heather: do you expect additional charges? >> absolutely. they are going to be heavy. heather: thank you for joining us. we appreciate your insight. bill: they were looking at an abandoned home two doors down. the hearings underway in washington where former senator joe lieberman just dropped a bombshell 0 lawmakers on american security. what he said next.
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bill: we mentioned this before the break. the boston hearings underway on the hill. this is former senator joe lieberman moment oh go on what he considers failures to what happened in boston. >> from what i know of the facts in boston or none of us know them all at this point. and from what i learned over the years about home grown islamist terrorism, i believe that though it would not have been easy, it was pot to have prevented the terrorist attacks in boston. in a literal sense the homeland security system, we must acknowledge we built after 9/11 to protect the american people from terrorist attacks, failed
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to stop the tsarnaev brothers. bill: it was possible according to former senator lieberman. >> another step in the senate overhaul of our nation's immigration laws. the judiciary committee begins the process of marking up a comprehensive immigration reform bill aiming to change our countries laws for the 11 million illegal immigrants living right near the united states right now. that number peaked in 2007. when a record 12 million illegal immigrants lived here. mike emanuel is here with us on capitol hill. >> reporter: this is the first shot supporters and critics get at changing the bill that was negotiated by the bipartisan 8 senators. they will try to strengthen the bill to get wider bipartisan
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support. marco rubio says he's open to amendments that improve the legislation. >> this is a very complex issue it includes how we treat the high-tech industry and how we treat the people who are here illegally. most of the amendments are designed to make the bill better. >> reporter: 300 amendments have been filed to this bill. heather: some of the toughist critics are -- some of the toughest critics are conservative. >> reporter: a lot of that frustration is focused on homeland security secretary janet napolitano who critics don't believe will carry out the enforcement measures. on the critics side, here is senator jeff sessions. >> this legislation declares it
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has triggers to guarantee the border enforcement will be in place but that's not true. basically it's all up to the secretary of homeland security. she is the one that certifies that our triggers should occur. >> reporter: the process is expected to go several days next week. bill: why was the military not sent to help the night of benghazi. who made that call and why? we'll ask former cia director in minutes. heather: convicted killer jodi arias on suicide watch after saying she would rather get the death penalty than face years behind bars. reaction up next. t who to hire without going to angie's list first. you'll find reviews on home repair to healthcare written by people just like you. with angie's list, i know who to call, and i know the results will be fantastic. angie's list -- reviews you can trust.
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bill: 10:00 in new york. fox news alert. ariel castro held on $8 million bond. >> ariel castro charged with kidnapping and rape. kidnapping and rape on the second. kidnapping and rape on the third. and kidnapping on the fourth. >> with respect mr. castro he is waiving examination on each case. bill: that was from 8:30 this morning. 90 minutes ago. that was the first time so many of us had a chance to see him live. age 52, ariel castro in court before a judge accused of kidnapping three young
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women, holding them for about a decade. arraigned on multiple rape and kidnapping charges. breaking details as the three women he held will try to put their lives back together again. that will be a very long process. two said to be home with family. another said to be recovering at the hospital. there is more from cleveland. meantime, she says death is her ultimate freedom. that from jodi arias now on suicide watch in phoenix, arizona, facing the death penalty after a conviction of first-degree murder. brand new hour and a busy day continues here on "america's newsroom." i'm bill hemmer. welcome at home. welcome back, heather. heather: i'm heather childers in for martha maccallum. this afternoon a mini-trial to decide whether arias gets life in prison or dices for her crimes. just after the verdict was read, arias went before the tv cameras to do an interview with fox phoenix. >> if you had to do this all
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over again again you're in the desert, you notice you have blood on your hands, how do you handle it? >> i would turn around drive immediately to the police department. >> reporter: what do you think would have happened to you then? >> i don't know but it would have been the right thing. >> reporter: do you have a sense where the public feeling is about you, whether you're liked or not liked? i mean -- >> i get a sense there is great division on both sides but i believe the majority is against me. >> reporter: what are your thoughts on that? >> psychologists once explained to me that society has this need to persecute people and get personal gratification from it. so there might be something going on there. heather: fox news medical a-teamer dr. keith ablow joins us now with hopefully some more insight into this. you know, dr. ablow, you're found guilty of first-degree murder.
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you're facing the death penalty. the first thing you do is go and give this television interview. what do you think about that? what is she thinking? >> well, i think she's not thinking in the way that you or i might. i think that this is somebody who's out of touch to a great degree with genuine feeling, wearing a kind of mask. and so for her the notion of going before the camera doesn't provoke necessarily the same kinds of anxiety ore second thoughts that it would in somebody else. and i think she probably believes that she can convey her thoughts and make people believe what she does because she has an overvalued idea of her own power. heather: manipulation? is she trying to manipulate the outcome? >> well i don't know. this to me, heather, sounds somewhat genuine. would i want to spend, would you want to spend, would the average person want to spend life in prison or say, i'm
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exiting stage right? in some ways she may be reporting from the center of herself for one of the first times. hey, i'm not up for this. this is for me being contained, represents the ultimate horror because after all, this is somebody who didn't like no for an answer. heather: you know we've watched this trial as it continued day after day after day. she began with this series of lies. is she a sociopath? >> well, i haven't evaluated her. i won't give her a diagnosis but what i'll say is this. there are people who are so divorced, for whatever reason, from their own core emotion that they can't report on them effectively and they can be overtaken by them and so it could be that there's a sliver of jodi arias that was truly horrified at what she had done and considers it to be something another has done
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because she hasn't unified whatever she suffered through in her own life that leads her to have to have her man or become homicidally enraged when she doesn't get what she wants may be a stranger to her. so she is saddened by the verdict but she may have no insight to her behavior at all. heather: saddened by the verdict but very little emotion when it was read. maybe her chin quivered a little bit as she turned around to look at her mother. we'll see what the jury decides whether she gets death or life. thank you, dr. ablow, for joining us. >> be well. bill: the families of travis alexander crying after justice long sought, five years in fact. a similar reaction outside the courtroom. here is the scene. [cheers and applause] we saw cheering and hugging and tearing up from some of the strangers who came to gather there. a friend of alexander, well he says there is only one justice now and that's the
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death penalty. >> shouldn't have been any other way. anything else would have been a travesty. >> honestly i didn't look over at her. my eyes teared up. i couldn't see. i think i just looked skyward and thanked god for this day. >> if what she did to travis is not justified the death penalty in america today, then why do we have one? bill: alexander, 30 years old when he was killed. oing to move now to benghazi. the hearing yesterday revealing major questions from the u.s. military and their response thereafter. diplomat gregory hicks was on the ground in tripoli when terrorists stormed the compound. he testified that a special forces team in tripoli was ready to help but they were ordered to stand down. >> people in benghazi had been fighting all night. they were tired, they were exhausted.
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wanted to make sure the airport was secure for their withdrawal. >> how did the personnel react to being told to stand down? >> they were furious. i can only say, well, i will quote lieutenant colonel gibson. he said, this is the first time in my career that is diplomat has more balls than somebody in the military. bill: general michael hayden is here to react to a lot of this. former director with the cia. principle with the chertoff group. welcome to "america's newsroom." what do we take from yesterday? >> first of all that testimony you just showed was heartbreaking, wasn't it, in terms of what the deputy chief of mission, mr. hicks, was trying to do. but, bill, when i look at it and try to take a step back, you know, it's possible that most of the actors in this play were doing exactly what we would have expected them to do. the special forces team like good american soldiers, wanted to go to the sound of
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the guns. the deputy chief of mission wanted to protect his friends and perhaps people back here in washington having a bit of a broader view of what was going on, knowing that they would be second and third moves down the board here, wanted to conserve resources. what disappoints me, bill, not that the decision that was made but that everyone trying to make a decision was choosing from a very short, very bad list of options and how did we get ourselves into that place? that to me is the real key here. bill: so the pentagon said there was nothing in team could have a done to assist during the second attack in benghazi. do you believe that? >> well, i mean, first of all, when the decision was made you did not know how benghazi was going to roll out. as it turns out they probably would have gotten there about the time that the folks were getting to the airport. they may not have been able to contribute very much but, always in flux at the time.
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but again i'm a little reluctant to second-guess people making decisions in those circumstances compared to how did we get ourselves into those circumstances. bill: many argued you could make a fly-by, buzz the place, you scare people away. >> that's different. that is not the team going. that is sending fighter aircraft to fly low and fast and make a lot of noise and i must admit, bill, when this first happened, i wondered why that wasn't done. now, there's testimony yesterday that --. bill: do you still, general? >> well i do, i do but there's testimony yesterday that, you know, you've got to obey the laws of physics. was it physically possible to have done that? if you made the decision and early enough and quickly enough could that have been done? i truly don't know. the argument it wasn't physically possible. certainly if it had been physically possible that would have been a very good choice. bill: one more thing from gregory hicks. listen to this. it runs 19 seconds. >> the response team from
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the annex in benghazi, six individuals, drove the attackers out of our compound and secured it temporarily. there have been estimates as high as 60 attackers were in the compound at one particular time. bill: when he says 60, you think this is highly organized and quite possibly was. the and your reaction has been primarily from a military standpoint. and if you're satisfied with the logic that you now are placing together to piece the events together, what are the remaining questions you have for how the government responded after that i think that is critical now. >> no, it is. bill, you've got it just right. what happened in those seven to eight hours, tragic but you don't have to do anything wrong to have things bad happen in that period. i'm worried about what we call left of bang. as i said, why do you put them in those circumstances? why do you have such terrible choices? now equally important as you suggest is right of bang. how do you articulate to the
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american people why our ambassador and three other good americans are dead. and i must admit, that has been a very confusings episode, even for someone with my background because it is very clear from the nature of the attack almost immediately that this wasn't a spontaneous demonstration connected to a bad movie review with regard to that anti-islamic video. bill: thank you, general. appreciate your thoughts and coming in to analyze this. and we will be in contact with you. >> thank you, bill. bill: thank you, sir, from washington. heather. heather: now live look at capitol hill for you. getting to the bottom of the boston bombings. how witnesses just told lawmakers that al qaeda is alive and well. we will talk with former massachusetts senator scott brown. bill: also a teen soccer player punches a ref. the referee went into a coma and then died. now the teenager finds out the charges against him. heather: plus new reaction today on jodi arias's guilty verdict.
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bill: want to take you back to the hill. the boston bombing hearings have been underway for an hour and 15 minutes. we heard from the police commissioner ed davis from boston moments ago. he confirmed with the chairman of that committee, mike mccaul, the boston police department had no knowledge from the fbi. >> no sharing of knowledge from the fbi about the investigation into tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011. in addition to that, ed davis talked about where the investigation was and is today. here. >> we need to explain to the community that they have a responsibility to their community and to their nation and to what's right, to report the kind of activity that these brothers were involved in prior to the incident. and i think that's the first
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line of defense. this is going to be a lot of conversation about cameras and other technical means. there is no technical means that you can point to, there is no computer that is going to spit out a terrorist's name. it's, it's the, community being involved in the conversation. bill: and they involved the community eventually to capture them. former massachusetts senator scott brown, fox news contributor and good morning to you. you've been watching the hearings up there from boston. what do you take away from the comment about no information about the fbi investigation into tamerlan? >> i spoke to commissioner davis yesterday and have throughout the entire situation and he is obviously doing a great job. he did a great job with obviously trying to get the perpetrators and find them but he did say the communication with the prior knowledge of investigations between the fbi and obviously the deceased, it was lacking.
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so there's going to be a lot of top to bottom reviews. seeing what worked, what didn't. but he did say once the event happened the lines of communication were obviously very open and seamless and i actually thank ad lot of what we did in terms of providing the homeland security dollars, the training, the grants so they could actual do their jobs. >> that could be but he also said the state police in massachusetts, the fusion center, i'm not sure what the fusion center is in massachusetts but, no one had knowledge about the fbi investigation of tamerlan. that would seem to be -- >> that is real issue. of course it is, that is a real issue. that is something they will obviously have to get to the bottom of. that is the key issue, how did the fbi clear these people and him in particular and how did he and then, you know, go back and forth to chechnya? these are the questions that we have to find out where the breakdown is. i think there's more than likely a breakdown at the federal level versus the
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actual state and local level. these are things we need to learn and obviously correct in the future. bill: the one thing we hear so often from people involved is you have to notify local police because they're your best eyes and ears on the ground. >> sure. the boots on the ground. bill: what he's saying they have a list of impact players, they call it impact player list in boston where they have two to 300 people that they believe could potentially be involved in violence, that they're keeping an eye after. just seems to me when the public hears about that, you understand about how big this job is. >> yeah. bill: in a bigger sense though senator lieberman, this is a bit of a clarion call. i want you to listen to this from the hearings and i will get you to respond to this. senator lieberman moments ago. >> sure. >> the boston marathon attacks should again teach us that the enemy we face is violent islamist extremism, not just al qaeda. usama bin laden is dead and
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the remaining leadership of al qaeda is on the run but the ideology of violent islamist extremism is rapidly spreading. bill: do you think we accept that now? or have we turned against that thinking? >> no, i think that there is a lot of deep concern especially after what you saw in boston of more of a homegrown terrorist element and not so much that al qaeda is coming here per se but we have the thoughts of al qaeda being really infiltrating our youth, infiltrating people visiting here or overstaying their visas. it's very serious. i know when joe and i were on homeland there was always deep concern about the homegrown terrorist element and what we could do to stop it because we get thousands and thousands a times a day whether by cyber probing or criminal probing trying to find out where our weaknesses are. he said he wasn't quite sure where the breakdown was but
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he thought it could have been prevented. i'm not quite sure what he is basing that on because he didn't know all the facts so. bill: i have just about 20 seconds, i heard that the suggestion that is implied that some elements of you know, our political leadership feels otherwise about al qaeda and the war on terror. >> well that could be true. i think what he was really referring to was the breakdown with the fbi and how the russian government government gave us information and we didn't follow through and boot this guy out of the country. that is i think where the breakdown is. we have to look at the two to 300 people in boston and figure out if there are real terrorist threats or real criminal threats and get them out of here. bill: the ideology of violent islamic extremism is rapidly expanding. thank you, scott out of boston. >> thank you, bill. heather: i know you're excited about this, bill. prince harry headed to washington. some of his recent visits to
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the u.s. he made headlines for his high-profile partying. this time he wants to use his trip to raise awareness of some serious issues. one of the first stops is capitol hill, to bring attention to a cause close to his mother's heart. we'll get a report. bill: he get your vote? no he is not running for office. here is a serious matter. the soccer referee dying after being punched in the face over a penalty call. should the teenager accused of killing him faced a adult charges? a closer look at that. >> i have a 17-year-old youth. i have a family that lost a loved one and i have a community that says, when you go out and engage in daily sort of recreational activities we shouldn't end up with these kind of tragedies. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much. i appreciate it. i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money?
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bill: reports are coming in
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from washington at 10:45 this morning that is about 24, 25 minutes from now. house speaker john boehner is prepared to make comments based on the benghazi hearings of yesterday, not quite sure what he will say. a lot of his republican lawmakers asked him to call for a select committee. the speaker told us two weeks ago he is not prepared to do that. i don't know if that will be the topic of discussion but 10:45 we'll drop in on the hill for that. also on the hill moments ago, former vice president dick cheney, according to sources inside of a room of republican lawmakers vice president cheney said the following. i think, quote, i think hillary clinton should be subpoenaed if necessary. we get more from that. we'll bring it to you. that is all happening on the hill right now. boehner, speaker boehner. 25 minutes away. heather: meantime prince harry is on his way to the u.s. right now he may have, maybe a reputation as britain's party prince. but he says he wants to use this trip to show his support for injured members
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of the military. one of his first stops will be capitol hill. that is where peter doocy is standing by live for us. so, peter, where is harry going to go on the hill? >> reporter: heather, in about five hours, harry's first stop in the united states is going to be at an exhibit on landmines here on the hill, actually in the russell rotunda about 25 feet below me. they're just setting it up right now. it is being sponsored, this exhibit by the halo trust, which is a group which works to remove landmines from all over the world from afghanistan to zimbabwe. the halo trust is also a group that harry's late mother, princess diana worked very closely with until her death in 1997. senator john mccain will actually be one of prince harry's primary tour guides this afternoon. he is stepping in for his wife cindy who was supposed to take the prince around but had to bow out at the last minute because of a knee injury. one thing to wrap up here, the 28-year-old royal will
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head acrosstown for a reception at the british embassy. tomorrow morning prince harry will lay a wreath in section 60 in arlington cemetery in northern virginia. that is where many americans killed in iraq and afghanistan are buried. then it is off to walter reed national military medical center. that is where prince harry will get a demo of new prosthetic devices and meet wounded warriors going through rehab right now. heather? heather: peter what is on prince harry's itinerary once he believes the beltway? >> reporter: after he is done in d.c. prince harry will fly to colorado where a team of british wounded warriors competing first time against teams of injured american veterans in the warrior games. then it is off to the big apple for prince harry for some new york fund-raisers before a few stops in new jersey where governor chris christie is going to show the prince some of the areas on the shore hardest hit by superstorm sandy. last but not least, before heading back across the atlantic, prince harry will
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play in a poll low match in connecticut. he has a very, very full agenda, heather. six states plus d.c. but noticeably absent is nevada. you remember prince harry visited las vegas last time he was in the states. generated a quite a few tabloid headlines for his activities late at night. doesn't look there is much room for any extracurriculars this time around. heather: his activities. thank you very much, peter. we appreciate it. bill: 28 minutes past now. there is new attention on the widow of the boston bombing suspect. her name is katherine russell, an american shown here, hiring some high powered attorneys. we're live in boston with developments on that. heather: new reaction to the jodi arias verdict. a friend of victim travis alexander speaks out. >> we liked her initially. we thought she was a really nice person. it wasn't until later in the relationship that things started to get a little crazy. this day calls you. to fight chronic osteoarthritis pain.
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bill: all right. here we go. new information now that the remains of tamerlan tsarnaev now moved and buried in massachusetts. molly line back on the sidewalk there, boylston street in boston. what's the latest there, molly? >> reporter: well, the long ordeal for the worcester police department is finally over. they have been spending tremendous amount of time and resources finding somewhere and someplace to bury this body. a compassionate individual has come forward and the body has been removed from the city of worcester and
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entombed. we do not know the location. bill? bill: the widow. she is an american. from the boston area. she has hired lawyers. what can you report on that? >> reporter: well we're gettingre hiring an additional attorney for her legal team, a prominent criminal defense attorney out of new york who has represented numerous suspects, accused in terrorism-related cases. he represented detainee from gitmo. his name is joshua dratel of. he is a harvard law grad. when we tried to get some clarification from the legal team why she hired this individual now they release statement his unique specialized experience will help insure, katie, that is katherine russell tsarnaev can assist in the ongoing investigation in as constructs of it way as possible. bill: viewers are asking about this, bya. the following, has anyone asked or looked into what mosque or religious place these boston bombers go or
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who is their religious leader or imam. molly, you have looked into this. what have you found so far? >> reporter: both of suspects would occasionally attend prayer at the islamic society of boston that is a mosque in cambridge. leaders say they very rarely attended particularly the older brother. younger brother occasionally a year ago started coming to friday prayers or prayers during the week. he was two disruptive on two separate occasions in mosque. one when the preacher was talking about thanksgiving holiday and when the preacher was talking about martin luther king. tamerlan tsarnaev stood up challenging the preacher. that he was nonbeliever and contaminating people's minds. he was hushed at the mosque and asked to leave because of those circumstances. bill. bill: you have to think part of this is in the investigation too in the end. thank you. molly line there in boston. got a bya? e-mail, or follow me on twitter @billhemmer. our lines are open right
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now. >> state of arizona versus jodi ann arias, down one. we the jury empan they would and sworn in the above typed action in find the defendant in count 1, first-degree murder, guilty. heather: the verdict heard around the country, guilty of first-degree murder. jodi arias displaying little emotion. her ex-boyfriend sadly openly weeping. she had this to say this travis alexander's family. >> i hope now that a verdict has been rendered they're able to find peace, some sense of peace. i don't think they will ever find the peace that they would like but maybe they, maybe they will be able to have greater peace now. or some semblance of it and be able to move on with their lives and remember their brother the way they wanted. heather: joining us now, a friend of travis alexander, clancy talbot.
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thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. heather: so what did you think right there? the words right there, that she had to say to travis alexander's family, no, i'm sorry. do you think she feels any remorse? >> no. no, and i don't think at this.i'm not sure that she is capable of feeling re -- remorse. because we have not seen it in this entire last five years. we've seen not one sled of remorse. and it is all about her still and her being the victim and everyone else being at fault. heather: did you listen to the interview she gave following the verdict? did you hear elements of that? what are your thoughts on some of the things she had to say? >> it's frustrating just because it is still jodi, typical jodi making it all about her. making, you know, a mockery of the justice system. blaming the prosecution. i know she was upset with her defense. and just her words about how
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his family can remember him the way they want to insinuating that their way isn't really the true travis. this is just typical jodi. this is very frustrating. you know for once in her life she will be held accountable for her actions. heather: which, you know, she is probably a little surprised at because her words, she said, her words, no jury will ever convict me with the possibility of going to death row. and now they have. do you think she should be sentenced to death? >> absolutely. i do. the way she killed my friend. she deserves to be put to death and if not, then at least life in prison. at least. >> have you spoken to travis's family members? what do they have to say about the verdict? >> they're elated. they are relieved. it's not over. we've got more to go today.
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it was steven's birthday tuesday and he said this is the best belated birthday present i could ask for. it is just, the very first time they have actually been able to breathe and, i know that a few people said this is the first time they have seen some of them smile in five years. and it just has been so rough on them. i do also want to mention a lot of people are still asking how they can support this family and, we do have a website called, travis alexander for anyone that wants to donate to the family. heather: clancy, you know travis was in a relationship with this woman. what do you think he would want to happen to her? do you think that travis would want for her to get the death penalty or life in prison? >> travis was all about justice and i think that he would want her to pay for what she did. i don't know if that was, you know, for him if that would be life in prison or the death penalty.
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i can't, you know, speak for him but i know he was all about justice and he would want her to be held accountable. so i think if he was in one of his siblings shoes, it would most likely be death. heather: but at this point you're feeling at least partially justice has been served? >> i think it is the first glimmer of hope we've had in a long, long time. heather: clancy talbot, thank you so much for joining us we appreciate it? >> thank you. bill: six minutes away from speaker john boehner. his first public remarks from since the hearings we watched on benghazi. many of his own colleagues have asked him to take more action. as a result of the investigation thus far. we'll see whether or not he makes a move on that or perhaps it is something else related to benghazi. either way we'll have coverage after we get a quick commercial break here. back in three minutes here on "america's newsroom.". speaker boehner on tap announcer] from more efficient payments.
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doug schoen, former advisor to president bill clinton and monica crowley, radio talk show host and both are fox news contributors. good morning to you. we've been trying to figure out where we go next on this. i think there is a number of approaches you can take. what do republicans do, what do democrats do? general michael hayden was with us 40 minutes ago, he seems to be satisfied based on the information he has about the pentagon's response but everything else that came after it, pretty stuck on that. and i believe, doug, that is the next angle on this story. >> well i think it could be but with all due respect to general hayden from a political point of view i don't think that all the questions have been answered about what happened on the night of september 11th. bill: that is precisely what he prefered or referred to rather. politically, monica, if that is the case that doug mentions here, what is next? >> in fact i think yesterday's hearings didn't answer any questions and in fact opened up other questions that need to be answered. for example, the
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commander-in-chief and secretary of state, the two leaders of the u.s. government that night, they are unaccounted for that night. we have no narrative what they were or what they were doing. those questions need to be answered. who gave those stand-down orders that general hayden is referring to that we heard last night? there may have been multiple standdown orders for military assets in the region. who gave those orders? after hearing the testimony yesterday, bill, how did we get that truth what happened last night to a fiction about a video, a big lie per pit -- perpetuated by everyone from the president to the secretary of state weeks on end? the bilge question, what exactly are they covering up. bill: hold onto that point about the protests in the video. where did that come from? >> we don't know. we simply don't know. monica is right. you heard gregory hicks yesterday say he was sick to his stomach when he read of the so-called, talking points that susan rice
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articulated five days later. we have no idea, we don't have a narrative. i don't think there was a smoking gun, bill, yesterday, but monica, in fairness there also weren't any answers. >> no. that is exactly right. and look, it may be that the dynamic change, yesterday, bill, when i was watching this. the democrats were really struggling because those witnesses yesterday were unimpeachable. you have a former marine. you have career foreign service folks testifying to the truth all based on facts. their testimony is unimpeachable and their characters are unimpeachable. democrats really struggled. the ranking member, elijah cummings the democrat said we need further investigation or more hearings. bill: or more hearings which is possibility. >> we may hear from john boehner which is a select committee which would be necessary. bill: perhaps he is not willing to go there yet. maybe he changes his mind in a moment. doug, come back to the protest thing. >> sure. bill: there was no testimony yesterday to suggest there was a protest or any evidence of it? >> again it was pretty clear to our career civil servants,
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those who were in benghazi and indeed to observers what was going on. it was an attack. where those talking points came from, how they were developed, and why five, six days later they were deemed credible inside the administration is a question we just don't have answers. bill: she mentioned elijah cummings. >> right. bill: are democrats coming around on this story or do they still have a stiff arm firmly in place? >> i think it is a stiff arm that is getting a little weaker. that is, democrats all said, look, there have been no answers. there is no smoking gun. there is no problem that has been isolated and analyzed like there was in watergate. but again, bill, as a democrat sitting here, there are a lot more unanswered questions today than there were yesterday. bill: meanwhile, so last weekend a few democratic congressman came out, lynch out of massachusetts said, why were the talking points watered down? who was response for that. >> we don't know. bill: why did that happen? up until i think last weekend, monica, frankly it
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was only republicans who were talking. >> right. as congressman chaffetz pointed out, they invited democrats to go along on the trip. they invited democrats to take part in this investigation and the democrats refused to do that. so they want to try to paint this as some sort of partisan witch-hunt and i think they will try to do it but i think what we heard yesterday is going to make it increasingly difficult for them to do that. bill: we don't have a two minute warning yet for speaker boehner but you expect him to go for the select committee? >> i think the dynamic really changed the whole conversation on benghazi yesterday because the democrats as i said, really struggled about. they had nothing. they had no opportunity to even make any kind of inroads because the truth was so solid. for the republicans i think, they realize they haven't gotten any answers from the commander-in-chief on down. so the, i think the pressure is on the speaker to announce a select committee so they can have subpoena power. bill: is that what it has, subpoena power? >> they can go right into the white house to get answers from the president, the secretary of state, the secretary of defense on
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down. bill: short of a select committee you do not have that power? >> you do not. they need the subpoena power. >> that is exactly right. and i think what boehner is waiting for, we'll see in a minute, do they believe that they can avoid charges of a partisan witch-hunt to go forward in a way that will benefit the investigation and ultimately benefit the republicans. bill: we're on standby. thank you, monica. thank you, doug. >> thank you. bill: speaker boehner will be out in a matter of moments. heather, what is next. heather: as we await that let's toss it over to jenna lee who is standing by to for "happening now". >> what is next for jodi arias is the big question as we move onto the sentencing phase. our legal panel will take up dynamic ins in play. the new evidence in the benghazi terror attack investigation as you all were talking about. the term ansar al-sharia was mentioned yesterday. what is that group? we'll talk more about that. plus the 7-minute workout. apparently there is not a gimmick. there is scientific evidence it suggests it works.
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heather, by the time you get to our show we could have full workout done. how about that? heather: i'm working out now. you can't tell? >> i like it. looks good. heather: thank you, jenna. new developments in the cleveland kidnappings. the ariel castro the man accused of running a house of horrors making his first court appearance today. what happened when he faced the judge? we'll have a live report.
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bill: here it is. moments ago house speaker john boehner coming out to talk about benghazi. this is the day after the hearings. let's listen. >> i hope you all tune understood yesterday's hearing on the tragedy in benghazi. we learned that on september 12th, the day after the attacks and four days before susan rice's tv appearances a senior state department
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official e-mailed her superiors to relay that the libyan ambassador, she had told the libyan ambassador, that the attack was conducted by islamic terrorists. the state department would not allow our committees to keep copies of this e-mail when it was reviewed. and i would call on the president to order the state department to release this e-mail so that the american people can see it. we also know that the white house continues to claim in only made stylelistic changes to the talking points used by susan rice,ing moring the -- ignoring the fact that senior white house officials directed changes be made to those talking points. our committee's interim report quotes specific e-mails where the white house and the state department insisted on removing all references to the terrorist attack to protect the state department
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from criticism for providing inadequate security. while a few of our members were able to review these e-mails, they were not allowed to keep them or to share them with others. i would call on the president to release these unclassified, inneragency e-mails so that the american people can see them. in the last november the president said that, and i'll quote, would be happy to cooperate with the congress in any way the congress wants. well this is his chance to show his cooperation so that we can get to the truth of what happened in benghazi. four americans lost their lives in this terrorist attack. and congress is going to continue to investigate this issue using all the resources at our disposal. yesterday the leader announced that the house will vote next week on repealing the president's health care law.
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the law should be repealed because it is increasing the cost of health care, it is reducing access to quality health care, and frankly, it is making it much more difficult for small employers to hire workers. this morning senator mcconnell and i informed the white house that we will not submit any names or recommendations for individuals to serve on the individual payment advisory board, ipad as we call it around here. this is the board with 15 unelected, unaccountable individuals who have the authority to deny seniors access to care. the american people don't want the federal government making decisions that doctors and patients should be making. we should repeal the entire law that created this board and enact a step by step common-sense approach to health care that starts with lowering costs.
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and lastly today the president's on another jobs tour or as the media described it this morning, his latest pivot back to jobs. the obama administration promised that if it its stimulus plan was enacted the unemployment rate today would be approximately 5%. but the unemployment is at 7.5%. what the president doesn't seem to understand is that it is his policies that are undermining economic growth and job creation. listen, i've run a small business. it is no surprise to me that the economy is struggling. we've had four years of --. bill: on economy and obamacare and prior to that on benghazi. a couple critical things the speaker just mentioned there about these e-mails he wants to go public apparently on the night of the attacks of september 11th, the morning of september 12th in benghazi the state department apparently told their superiors that, libyan
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ambassador was informed that the attack was conducted by islamic terrorists. he wanted that e-mail to go public. they have seen it but it has not been released. the also the interrim report quotes specific e-mails with regard to the talking points. speaker boehner mentions specific e-mails between the white house and the state department that insisted on removing all references to a terrorist attack to protect the state department and criticism for lack of security. he wants those e-mails to be made public as well. then he concludes by saying that congress will continue to investigate this issue based on all the resources that it has a the its, quote, disposal. that from house speaker john boehner moments ago the day after the benghazi hearings. he is under a lot of pressure to announce this select committee. he did not go there in that press conference. it is not clear whether or not he will go there at some point but a lot of his republican colleagues say that is what you need in order to get the subpoena power, in order to get access to leading members of the u.s. government, specifically the white house, secretary of state hillary clinton and others in order
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to get the ultimate answers as to what happened that night in that following day in benghazi. heather: what those e-mails will show is the answer to hillary clinton's question, what does it matter? you know, the president of libya on tv saying that it was a terrorist attack at the same time that we have ambassador rice saying that it was the results of a protest. bill: so we have the hearings from yesterday and speaker boehner now advancing the story today. he has not been, i don't want to say he has been reluctant to talk about this issue but he has kept his focus primarily on the economy, debt and deficit spending but after the hearings yesterday this is an issue that is front and center for him as a part of republican leadership in the house. heather: greg hicks said that delayed the fbi getting into libya for 17 to 18 days. bill: we're watching this. stay with us throughout the day. we'll see where it goes. it has been a big day of news here. the benghazi matter, fallout we're watching from there.
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also we will not leave cleveland as well. we watched ariel castro in court earlier today, age 52, now held on $8 million bond. heather: watching jodi arias as well. thank you. good to be here. bill: "happening now" starts right now. jon: and we begin with brand new stories and breaking news. jenna: a jury finds jodi arias guilty of first-degree murder in the grisly death of her lover. now they will decide if she gets life in prison or the death penalty. what we're also hearing from jodi arias herself. you don't want to miss that. the ohio man accused of holding three women captive for a decade making his first court appearance as we learn new horrifying details what these women say they went through over the last decade. and it is as much a part of the miss america pageant as the roses and the crown but miss america will be waving good-bye to this tradition. we'll tell you about it. it's all "happening now."
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